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  1. Niccolo
    June 27, 2010 at 12:35 am | | Reply


    Sort of harsh, but how can you not be after seeing how they played. If there’s one change I would make it would be Pepe getting a higher score, he injected a bit of pace and movement into the side and was always running. I’d give Pepe at least a 7 for his perseverance and work-rate.

    1. Rami S.
      Rami S.
      June 27, 2010 at 1:30 pm | | Reply


      Hi Niccolo,

      I had to keep in mind all 3 games factored together. I think the New Zealand game hurt the ratings the most but none of the Italians impressed in this World Cup except for Quagi in his half of playing time.

      As for Pepe, I was going to consider a 6 or 6.5 but his performance against the Kiwis was below average and Lippi had to replace him. Against Slovakia, he should have taken a different approach on the last play. I understand the pressure of the moment, but he could have done differently instead of his mishit.

      Yes, I agree he put the effort but often lacked the quality because he did not really contribute to any of Italy’s goals. He was not part of any of the major plays by the Azzurri. Usually it was Quagi (for good things) and De Rossi for either the good (His goal or penalty) or bad for his unacceptable pass which led to Slovakia’s first.

  2. Scott Alexander
    Scott Alexander
    June 27, 2010 at 4:51 pm | | Reply


    I’d agree with most of your ratings here. I’m curious what ratings you’d give Lippi for this tournament?

    1. Rami S.
      Rami S.
      June 27, 2010 at 11:20 pm | | Reply


      Hello Scott,

      That’s a very good question. To be fair, it’s more difficult to rate a coach than a player because we don’t get to see the training sessions, what he tells the players, how deals with them and if he is able to motivate them.

      Lippi is a legend after his successes with Juventus & Italy yet he tarnished his image when he coached Inter in a short and unsuccessful stint and now he has hurt his image with the Azzurri. Give him credit for deciding to return despite knowing the pressure he will face, the expectations and of course the media’s intense and intrusive coverage.

      While some might underestimate this, but the injuries to Pirlo and particularly Buffon have hurt the team. To win a World Cup, you need not just solid players, talent, a decent coach but also some lack, no injuries and sometimes decisions to go your way. In this World Cup, Italy had to deal with key injuries, the goals conceded in the first 2 games were defensive errors while Quagi’s goal which was disallowed for offside could have stood under different circumstances. Italy got one lucky call all tournament and it was penalty but even then De Rossi’s shirt was held despite his exaggerated fall.

      Going back to Lippi, I’d say he did best he could with the players available as they are not of superior quality. However, Lippi is to blame for excluding one or even two from Cassano, Balotelli and Totti (Miccoli would be on list but he got injured, but Lippi wasn’t going to include him anyways). I’d take off at least 1 point for Lippi’s 23-man squad to start with.

      I’d take another mark off for continuously playing Marchisio out of position and another for playing Gilardino and Iaquinta in a static attack. He needed to use both Di Natale and Quagi more often.

      Lippi also seemed to fail to fire up his players for the clashes against the Kiwis and then Slovakia. Finally, he should have benched Cannavaro after the first match even if he took a risk by including him and keeping him as captain. I’d add the exclusion of Giuseppe Rossi from the final squad. Why did he pick Iaquinta, Pazzini and Gilardino as all three are known finishers and do not create anything? He should have selected Rossi instead of Iaquinta or perhaps Pazzini.

      I’d give him at the end a 4 out of 10. The only reason I give him the mark is because the team played better in the second-half in the 3 matches and his substitutes tended to improve things for Italy. It’s a shame because in WC2006, I thought Lippi was the star followed by Cannavaro/Buffon/Pirlo.

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  7. Scott Alexander
    Scott Alexander
    June 29, 2010 at 6:03 pm | | Reply


    I think I’d agree with the ratings. The only thing that I’d quibble over a bit is your statement that some might underestimate the effect of the injuries. Very few people that follow the Italian game would underestimate the effect of Buffon getting injured. Pirlo is kind of Lippi’s fault. Not that he got injured of course but that Lippi knew Pirlo’s current injury situation and didn’t adequately prepare for it

    1. Rami S.
      Rami S.
      June 29, 2010 at 11:07 pm | | Reply


      Hi Scott,

      Some in the media, particularly in the US, made it seem the injury to Buffon was of minor influence on the Azzurri.

      I just think having a 100% Buffon would have meant added sense of confident amongst defenders and he is a commanding presence who could have compensated for Cannavaro’s decline. Finally, against Slovakia having Buffon would mean Italy had a bigger chance at seeing a save made on one of the Slovak goals.

      Thanks for your comments and time.

      1. Scott Alexander
        Scott Alexander
        July 2, 2010 at 6:31 pm | | Reply


        Rami,
        I completely agree on the confidence, presence, and ability to block at least one shot. Probably bigger to me though (and I might be wrong), Buffon seems to organize outfield positions much more than most keepers. I’m not convinced that he would have had to save some of those shots. As to the US media, I guess I don’t get a lot of it other than pre-game post-game stuff.
        I’m curious if you don’t mind me asking: what US media do you look at? and (I presume you look at Italian media as well) what Italian do you take a look at?

        1. Rami S.
          Rami S.
          July 3, 2010 at 3:52 am | | Reply


          Hi Scott,

          You’re right about Buffon and I’d add that one can see his concern for the game as he showed more passion and fire from the bench while his teammates were “walking” around on the pitch against Slovakia. On the flip side, Marchetti looked nervous and one could tell he did not have the courage to lecture Cannavaro or Chiellini because they have much more experience than him.

          For Italian media, I tend to check La Gazzetta dello Sport, I write for footballitaliano.co.uk and I watch as many games from Serie A as possible. I also check Football Italia regularly.

          I think before the World Cup, the US media paid little attention to the World Cup but I’ve come across some papers which wrote about the WC and of course pre and post analysis of games on US channels (ESPN & ABC) as well as various writers on Twitter. I do not usually check US media for Football news- I’ve only done it during the WC because of where the games are shown and because I was interested in checking what US papers wrote and what writers had to say about the World Cup.

          I am not sure if I shared this before but using Twitter can help get more news as well from various US media sources. I can be reached there too @RamiSoufi

          Thanks for your comments

  8. Rami S.
    Rami S.
    June 30, 2010 at 12:16 pm | | Reply


    One thing which crossed my mind is how come Gattuso started against Slovakia instead of let’s say Angelo Palombo?

    The Sampdoria midfielder is younger and in better shape than Gattuso.

    1. Scott Alexander
      Scott Alexander
      July 2, 2010 at 6:20 pm | | Reply


      Maybe, because Lippi knew that he was going to bring in Pirlo and didn’t want to have to use 2 substitutions to get the benefit of their understanding? I don’t know.. I think that I would have started Palombo.

      1. Rami S.
        Rami S.
        July 3, 2010 at 3:13 am | | Reply


        Hi Scott,

        I think Lippi would not have used Pirlo against Slovakia if Italy were up because he’d rest him for a Round of 16 match but unfortunately for Lippi the Azzurri were trailing and he had to throw Pirlo in.

        While Pirlo did not do anything special and was ineffective, he still helped boost Italy’s play with his simple passes.

        In a World Cup many things must fall in place for a team to succeed and best example is Brazil! The Selecao had best defensive lineup with Maicon, Lucio and Juan in front of Julio Cesar as well as a talented bunch further up in the pitch (Kaka, Robinho, Luis Fabiano) yet they failed because Felipe Melo was playing like he normally does for Juventus! I thought I was watching Melo in a Juve shirt because he was at fault for both goals and then made things worse by getting red carded.

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